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Thread Concept for Rabbit Holes Within a Flow
Design exploration for tracking side-quests that derail flow progress
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๐งต Threads: Tracking Rabbit Holes Within a Flow
The Problem You're Describing
You have one flow (greatVibe Development), but within it there are tangential sequences that took multiple turns to resolve before you could continue with the main objective.
Example from today:
Main Objective: Build Flow Timeline Panel โ โโโ ๐ฐ Rabbit Hole: Mobile padding broken โ โโโ Turn 1: Input area bottom padding fix โ โโโ Turn 2: Still broken - CSS cascade issue โ โโโ Turn 3: Found it - 100vh overriding 100svh โ โโโ Turn 4: Finally fixed โ โโโ Resume: Add lazy loading to timeline
๐ฏ What "Thread" Would Represent
| Definition | A sequence of turns that got spawned to resolve something before returning to the main work |
| Trigger | "This should have been simple but..." moments |
| Contains | 2+ kontasks that form a debugging/fixing sequence |
| Purpose | Visibility into where time/tokens went, learning from friction |
๐ Schema Options
Option A: Thread as First-Class Entity
gvThread { id: "thread_01KEN..." flowId: "flow_01KEK..." // parent flow title: "Mobile padding cascade bug" trigger: "Expected quick fix, got CSS cascade" kontaskIds: ["abc", "def", "ghi"] // ordered status: "resolved" | "ongoing" startedAt: timestamp resolvedAt: timestamp totalTurns: 4 totalTokens: 500000 }
โ Clean separation, easy to query "show me all rabbit holes"
โ Another entity to manage, more schema complexity
Option B: Edge-Based Threading
// Use edge type to link kontasks in sequence edge { sourceId: "kontask_def" // CSS cascade fix targetId: "kontask_abc" // original padding fix edgeType: "continues" // or "follows", "spawned_by" reason: "Previous fix didn't work" }
โ Uses existing graph infra, no new entities
โ Threads are implicit, harder to see boundaries
Option C: Kontask Tag/Group
// Add threadId field to kontask kontask { id: "abc" flowId: "flow_01KEK..." threadId: "thread_mobile-padding" // nullable threadOrder: 1 // position in sequence }
โ Simple, just adds fields to existing entity
โ Thread metadata (title, status) needs to live somewhere
๐ค My Take
Option A (Thread as Entity) feels right because:
- Threads have their own lifecycle (start, resolve, abandon)
- They deserve a title that explains the detour
- You want to see "this week's rabbit holes" in aggregate
- Token/time metrics make sense at the thread level
- Could surface in Flow Timeline as collapsible groups
๐ UI Representation
Flow Timeline (with threads) โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ โ 09:15 Flow Timeline Panel Cleanup โจ โ โ โ โ ๐งต Mobile Padding Bug (4 turns, 12min) โ โ โ 09:02 CSS Cascade Fix ๐ โ โ โ 08:52 Input Area Padding Fix ๐ โ โ โ 08:52 Still broken... ๐ โ โ โ 08:40 Full-Width Input Fix ๐ โ โ โ โ 08:40 Flow Timeline Full-Width Fix ๐๏ธ โ โ 01:51 Status Bar Layout Fix ๐๏ธ โ โโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโโ
Threads collapse to show "this was a detour" without cluttering the main timeline.
Bottom line: Yes, I think threads would add clarity. They're the "sub-plot" to your flow's "main plot". The question is whether to add them now or wait until the current flow system is more stable.
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greatvibe
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Created
11 Jan 2026, 9:28 am
Updated
11 Jan 2026, 9:30 am
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"output": "<div style=\"background:#1e1e1e;color:#e0e0e0;padding:20px;border-radius:8px;font-family:'Consolas','Monaco',monospace;\">\n<h2 style=\"font-family:sans-serif;color:#fff;margin:0 0 16px 0;\">๐งต Threads: Tracking Rabbit Holes Within a Flow</h2>\n\n<div style=\"background:#2d2d2d;padding:16px;border-radius:6px;margin-bottom:16px;\">\n<h3 style=\"color:#61afef;margin:0 0 12px 0;\">The Problem You're Describing</h3>\n<p style=\"color:#e0e0e0;line-height:1.6;\">You have <strong>one flow</strong> (greatVibe Development), but within it there are <em>tangential sequences</em> that took multiple turns to resolve before you could continue with the main objective.</p>\n\n<p style=\"color:#e0e0e0;margin-top:12px;\">Example from today:</p>\n<pre style=\"background:#252526;padding:12px;border-radius:4px;margin:8px 0;line-height:1.6;overflow-x:auto;\">\n<span style=\"color:#22c55e;\">Main Objective:</span> Build Flow Timeline Panel\n โ\n โโโ <span style=\"color:#f97316;\">๐ฐ Rabbit Hole:</span> Mobile padding broken\n โ โโโ Turn 1: Input area bottom padding fix\n โ โโโ Turn 2: Still broken - CSS cascade issue\n โ โโโ Turn 3: Found it - 100vh overriding 100svh\n โ โโโ Turn 4: Finally fixed\n โ\n โโโ <span style=\"color:#22c55e;\">Resume:</span> Add lazy loading to timeline\n</pre>\n</div>\n\n<h3 style=\"color:#c678dd;margin:16px 0 8px 0;\">๐ฏ What \"Thread\" Would Represent</h3>\n\n<div style=\"background:#2d2d2d;padding:16px;border-radius:6px;margin-bottom:16px;\">\n<table style=\"width:100%;border-collapse:collapse;\">\n<tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #3d3d3d;\">\n<td style=\"padding:8px;color:#7f848e;width:30%;\">Definition</td>\n<td style=\"padding:8px;color:#e0e0e0;\">A <strong>sequence of turns</strong> that got spawned to resolve something before returning to the main work</td>\n</tr>\n<tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #3d3d3d;\">\n<td style=\"padding:8px;color:#7f848e;\">Trigger</td>\n<td style=\"padding:8px;color:#e0e0e0;\">\"This should have been simple but...\" moments</td>\n</tr>\n<tr style=\"border-bottom:1px solid #3d3d3d;\">\n<td style=\"padding:8px;color:#7f848e;\">Contains</td>\n<td style=\"padding:8px;color:#e0e0e0;\">2+ kontasks that form a debugging/fixing sequence</td>\n</tr>\n<tr>\n<td style=\"padding:8px;color:#7f848e;\">Purpose</td>\n<td style=\"padding:8px;color:#e0e0e0;\">Visibility into where time/tokens went, learning from friction</td>\n</tr>\n</table>\n</div>\n\n<h3 style=\"color:#22c55e;margin:16px 0 8px 0;\">๐ Schema Options</h3>\n\n<div style=\"background:#2d2d2d;padding:16px;border-radius:6px;margin-bottom:16px;\">\n<h4 style=\"color:#e5c07b;margin:0 0 8px 0;\">Option A: Thread as First-Class Entity</h4>\n<pre style=\"background:#252526;padding:12px;border-radius:4px;margin:8px 0;line-height:1.6;overflow-x:auto;\">\n<span style=\"color:#c678dd;\">gvThread</span> {\n id: \"thread_01KEN...\"\n flowId: \"flow_01KEK...\" <span style=\"color:#7f848e;\">// parent flow</span>\n title: \"Mobile padding cascade bug\"\n trigger: \"Expected quick fix, got CSS cascade\"\n kontaskIds: [\"abc\", \"def\", \"ghi\"] <span style=\"color:#7f848e;\">// ordered</span>\n status: \"resolved\" | \"ongoing\"\n startedAt: timestamp\n resolvedAt: timestamp\n totalTurns: 4\n totalTokens: 500000\n}\n</pre>\n<p style=\"color:#98c379;margin:8px 0 0 0;\">โ Clean separation, easy to query \"show me all rabbit holes\"</p>\n<p style=\"color:#f87171;margin:4px 0 0 0;\">โ Another entity to manage, more schema complexity</p>\n</div>\n\n<div style=\"background:#2d2d2d;padding:16px;border-radius:6px;margin-bottom:16px;\">\n<h4 style=\"color:#e5c07b;margin:0 0 8px 0;\">Option B: Edge-Based Threading</h4>\n<pre style=\"background:#252526;padding:12px;border-radius:4px;margin:8px 0;line-height:1.6;overflow-x:auto;\">\n<span style=\"color:#7f848e;\">// Use edge type to link kontasks in sequence</span>\n<span style=\"color:#c678dd;\">edge</span> {\n sourceId: \"kontask_def\" <span style=\"color:#7f848e;\">// CSS cascade fix</span>\n targetId: \"kontask_abc\" <span style=\"color:#7f848e;\">// original padding fix</span>\n edgeType: \"<span style=\"color:#f97316;\">continues</span>\" <span style=\"color:#7f848e;\">// or \"follows\", \"spawned_by\"</span>\n reason: \"Previous fix didn't work\"\n}\n</pre>\n<p style=\"color:#98c379;margin:8px 0 0 0;\">โ Uses existing graph infra, no new entities</p>\n<p style=\"color:#f87171;margin:4px 0 0 0;\">โ Threads are implicit, harder to see boundaries</p>\n</div>\n\n<div style=\"background:#2d2d2d;padding:16px;border-radius:6px;margin-bottom:16px;\">\n<h4 style=\"color:#e5c07b;margin:0 0 8px 0;\">Option C: Kontask Tag/Group</h4>\n<pre style=\"background:#252526;padding:12px;border-radius:4px;margin:8px 0;line-height:1.6;overflow-x:auto;\">\n<span style=\"color:#7f848e;\">// Add threadId field to kontask</span>\n<span style=\"color:#c678dd;\">kontask</span> {\n id: \"abc\"\n flowId: \"flow_01KEK...\"\n <span style=\"color:#f97316;\">threadId</span>: 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0;font-size:0.9rem;\">Threads collapse to show \"this was a detour\" without cluttering the main timeline.</p>\n</div>\n\n<div style=\"background:#252526;padding:12px 16px;border-radius:6px;margin-top:16px;\">\n<span style=\"color:#7f848e;\">Bottom line:</span> <span style=\"color:#e0e0e0;\">Yes, I think threads would add clarity. They're the <strong style=\"color:#f97316;\">\"sub-plot\"</strong> to your flow's <strong style=\"color:#22c55e;\">\"main plot\"</strong>. The question is whether to add them now or wait until the current flow system is more stable.</span>\n</div>\n</div>",
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